2003.08.07

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という大仰なタイトルは毎日新聞の 「日本のスイッチ」 より．いまさら2ちゃんねる@折り鶴でも山田BBSでも聞けない質問なのでこっそりここに書きます．
・tDiaryって普通にRSSを吐けますか．Blosxomはどうですか．
・正しい，というかまともに使えるOPMLの例を教えてください．
・シェルなしでMovableTypeはインストールできますか．
自分で試せと言われそうですが何か情報がありましたら教えてください．．．

Posted by i2k at 2003.08.07 11:42 PM

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tDiaryの標準プラグインにこんなのがあります↓ ・rdfを吐き出すプラグインhttp://poincare.ikezoe.net/20030112.html

Comment from よしだ at 2003.08.08 01:37 AM

なるほど．「標準」で「プラグイン」というのがよくわからんけど，これはみんな普通に使ってるのでしょうか．もしくはどれぐらい導入が簡単なのでしょうか．

Comment from おおむかい at 2003.08.08 03:40 AM

・OPMLはSharpReaderで使っているんですが、あれは正しくないんでしょうか?　その辺の技術情報は細かく追っかけてないもので。 ・MovableTypeはシェルなしでインストールできます。基本的にmt.cfgをエディタで修正してそれをftpするだけですので。

Comment from 加野瀬 at 2003.08.08 06:02 PM

blosxomはどんなフォーマットのものであろうと出力できると思いますよ。元々、各エントリを日付けが新しい順に並べるだけですので。うちの場合はURLに入ってるリンクの後ろに /index.rss とつけてやるとRSS 0.91で出てきます。C.G.I.::blosxomさんのところはプラグインを利用してRSS 1.0吐いてるみたいですね。デフォルトの状態ではきちんとしてないRSS吐けます（ぉ。ちと、問題ありというところでしょうか(大概の人はきちんと直してるみたいです)。

Comment from kyo at 2003.08.08 07:37 PM

↑これもわかった上で質問してるわけじゃないのかな？ >これはみんな普通に使ってるのでしょうか これは見る側が判断することだから。

Comment from bmp at 2003.08.08 07:50 PM

OPML について． OPML の仕様は，http://www.opml.org/spec に記述されています．ただ，＜outline＞のCommon Attributes としては，「text」「type」「isComment」「isBreakpoint」の４つしかありません． sharpreader にある 「title」や「description」や「xmlUrl」 などは定義されていないわけです． Common なので，きっと，UnCommon なものもニーズにしたがって独自定義することが許されているんでしょう． それでは，なにが Popular（あるいはdefact standard）な UnCommon フォーマットなのか，ということが重要になります．誰の意見に，あるいはどんなソフトに従えばよいのか． なんとなく有力なのは，SharpReader のようですね．

Comment from msano at 2003.08.11 12:39 AM

しばらくネットのないところに出かけてました．tDiaryの話についてはかなり舌足らずですみません．わたしがtDiary等のツールを常用していないために周辺の状況がよくわかっておらず，もしRSSの生成についてよくまとまったページがあってしかもそれがtDiaryユーザの間でポピュラーなのであればぜひ教えてください，というのが本音でした（条件が厳しすぎますが．．．）．RNAの開発側としては「RSSを生成してくれたらうれしい」という思いはありますが，RSSを（デフォルトで）生成しないツールについて批評するつもりはありません．こちらでマニュアルを充実させるとか，はてなアンテナ連携のように別のアプローチを取るなどの対策を考え始めようかなと思っていました．

Comment from i2k at 2003.08.11 04:07 AM

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